tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2682457774245843924.post691014408828702733..comments2024-03-23T08:55:43.666-07:00Comments on Joyous Lessons: First Grade in Our Home: TimelinesCelestehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05834674328751444179noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2682457774245843924.post-19100711495314132252017-10-07T16:43:36.122-07:002017-10-07T16:43:36.122-07:00Hi Karen! Just for reference, the Riverbend Press...Hi Karen! Just for reference, the Riverbend Press BoCs start at 4000 BC -- so that would be a good place to start also. The one I based it off of works well for AO Years 1-5 because we don't cover ancients properly until Year 6. It *does* allow for the inclusion of Abraham, which is important, I think. But if you are going to want to chart some ancient Greek history, like if you are doing some classical free reads or you will be keeping the same timeline into Year 6 as well, you will want to start earlier. Hope that helps. :)Celestehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05834674328751444179noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2682457774245843924.post-56687107683457448012017-09-30T23:26:34.043-07:002017-09-30T23:26:34.043-07:00Uh, I must need to go to bed because I just realiz...Uh, I must need to go to bed because I just realized I'm not even using the right date for the 21st century BC (reminder to self, it's not actually 21,000 BC). But I would still ask the same question, if you would bound the early end of the timeline as 21st century BC and not something earlier... Karennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2682457774245843924.post-88031417957475268172017-09-30T23:20:41.742-07:002017-09-30T23:20:41.742-07:00Hi Celeste - I'm just printing out my timeline...Hi Celeste - I'm just printing out my timeline sheets. I'm wondering if, after a couple years of timelines, you'd still start with the 21st century BC or if maybe 9-10,000 BC or something else might be a better "start" (I imagine earlier than that would be sparsely filled in?karenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11830386616787112083noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2682457774245843924.post-5870182586776973842017-06-28T18:04:08.757-07:002017-06-28T18:04:08.757-07:00Yes, most Books of Centuries that are out on the m...Yes, most Books of Centuries that are out on the market are really fancy timelines, so it gets a bit confusing! :)<br /><br />Yes, my kids have kept the same timelines in their binders until they transition to the BOC in Year 6. We have not needed to add or change pages. What we have done instead is add in an additional history tool: a Century Chart. It's a way of tracking all the years in a century and would be another stepping stone toward prepping for their BoC. We did one in Year 4 and one in Year 5 since each of those AO years cover about a century. They used that for their history readings but still kept their timelines also, for things outside of that time period (like our composer, or a poet we were studying, etc.). You can see an example in this post on our recent finish of Year 5:<br />http://joyouslessons.blogspot.com/2017/05/a-school-year-kept.html<br /><br />I hope that is clear! :)Celestehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05834674328751444179noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2682457774245843924.post-16261699061846473252017-06-28T13:28:51.466-07:002017-06-28T13:28:51.466-07:00Thank you so much Celeste! This makes so much more...Thank you so much Celeste! This makes so much more sense! I'm a visual learner, so when I searched images of "book of centuries" I kept coming up with some sort of hybrid between your timeline and what CM did for BOC's. Your explanation definitely helps. Is your plan to have each child keep these timeline pages in their binders until they transition to a BOC? Will you add pages to the timeline as needed, change pages each year? As always, I am very grateful! Rachelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02977467452764087983noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2682457774245843924.post-69594987251676037702017-06-28T10:44:15.068-07:002017-06-28T10:44:15.068-07:00Hi Rachel! Charlotte Mason's vision for the BO...Hi Rachel! Charlotte Mason's vision for the BOC looks different from the kind of timelines we keep in a few ways. <br /><br />Her timelines, which were used for Year 4 and up, had two facing pages for each century: one with a 100-year grid (like a century chart) and one blank for drawings or artifacts. So the student can really only choose one event per year to place on his or her BOC, and it's organized carefully by date. <br /><br />Our binder timelines are just simple columns -- we don't worry about ordering within the column because we're just trying to get at a general concept of how history works. They also can add as many figures/events as they want, so there is no need for them to select and cull. And there isn't a facing page for historical artifacts -- it is just the columns.<br /><br />The kind of timeline we are keeping is basically setting the stage for the formal BOC. It's best to wait on that one not only because it requires a level of thoughtfulness that younger children don't yet have (the ability to weigh one event against another in terms of importance, the ability to zero in on specific dates), but it also requires small, neat handwriting and a level of drawing skill as well. The BOC is a notebook they will start in Year 4 but ideally keep working in their whole lives -- that same notebook. So you want them to be at a place where they're doing higher level work that they won't be embarassed or frustrated by later. ;)<br /><br />We are choosing to begin our proper BOC in Year 6, when AmblesideOnline begins the second history rotation. It just seems like a neat place to start and allows for a little extra time to develop those skills I mentioned.<br /><br />Hope that helps!Celestehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05834674328751444179noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2682457774245843924.post-23647201214678327232017-06-28T10:36:44.937-07:002017-06-28T10:36:44.937-07:00I went back and reread a little slower and found s...I went back and reread a little slower and found some answers to my questions 😉 But I am still curious as to how a BOC differs from the timeline binder system. Thank you!Rachelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02977467452764087983noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2682457774245843924.post-85952915325918410112017-06-28T07:43:11.403-07:002017-06-28T07:43:11.403-07:00Celeste, I am really having a difficult time under...Celeste, I am really having a difficult time understand the difference between your timeline binder/pages vs a book of centuries. Can you enlighten me? 😊<br />Also, do the kids keep their timeline pages in their regular school binder, or do they have a timeline binder? At what age do you transition to a BOC, and what does that look like? Rachelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02977467452764087983noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2682457774245843924.post-38147476890585528472015-07-22T06:42:00.971-07:002015-07-22T06:42:00.971-07:00Hi, Keri! Yes, I do have a weekly slot on the sch...Hi, Keri! Yes, I do have a weekly slot on the schedule for all the children to pull out their timelines and make at least one entry. I let them choose what to include. Sometimes (especially as they get older) they already have in mind a few figures or events from that week's reading. Sometimes they ask me to tell them the names we read about to jog their memory, and then they choose from there. Sometimes they make a note to themselves on their weekly assignment sheet as they read so they'll remember (my daughter often does this). For my Year 1 student, since she is still new to this, I jot down the names during my pre-reading so I can give her a list of some to choose from. And I do have them add our composer, artist, and poet to the timeline at the start of each term for reference. Our weekly timeline slot takes maybe ten minutes, including getting out and putting away their binders. ;) Hope that helps!Celestehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05834674328751444179noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2682457774245843924.post-12983347667320816982015-07-22T05:47:07.358-07:002015-07-22T05:47:07.358-07:00I'm putting your binder timeline together for ...I'm putting your binder timeline together for my Year 2 daughter. It's perfect for this mom. Question: Do you have a set time during the week set aside for timeline work? If so, how do you decide what goes on it? As you're reading during the week, do you jot down people, events and dates to come back to during timeline time? Just trying to figure out the most efficient way to do the timeline. Thanks so much! Keri at Growing in His Gloryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08020330355186954251noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2682457774245843924.post-68980155087579135332015-07-06T06:29:25.102-07:002015-07-06T06:29:25.102-07:00Yes, project-intensive pretty much never gets done...Yes, project-intensive pretty much never gets done around here either. :)Celestehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05834674328751444179noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2682457774245843924.post-83662330849572588712015-07-05T19:22:00.664-07:002015-07-05T19:22:00.664-07:00I have been contemplating timelines for the past c...I have been contemplating timelines for the past couple of weeks, and what I liked looked so time consuming and project intensive, that I knew we'd never get it done. I knew you'd have an answer! I will try this and see how it works out! Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10869035510672822278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2682457774245843924.post-37182634966771575292015-06-02T08:03:26.313-07:002015-06-02T08:03:26.313-07:00I'm glad! It really is simple to start and ma...I'm glad! It really is simple to start and maintain and had served us well. :)Celestehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05834674328751444179noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2682457774245843924.post-18225804207379886352015-06-01T08:17:21.054-07:002015-06-01T08:17:21.054-07:00Thank you so much for this post! We had been slack...Thank you so much for this post! We had been slacking on our "time tools" because my children were too young for the BOC and I wasn't sure how to implement something for the younger years. We will be putting this into practice soon!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10403420202037641375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2682457774245843924.post-80970705257042689902015-05-02T10:23:11.582-07:002015-05-02T10:23:11.582-07:00Oh good! It has worked for us for the last few ye...Oh good! It has worked for us for the last few years and I'm just putting together one for my rising 1st grader, who is very excited to have her own timeline like the big kids'. :)Celestehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05834674328751444179noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2682457774245843924.post-15210695330758070822015-05-01T11:32:00.240-07:002015-05-01T11:32:00.240-07:00Thanks for pointing me to this post on your binder...Thanks for pointing me to this post on your binder timelines, Celeste. I think this might be just want I'd like to start with my youngest who is doing Year 1. I want to keep it simple and I think this would work nicely. :)Karen @ The Simply Bloghttp://thesimplyblog.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.com